tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post2866957096343949001..comments2023-10-29T04:33:48.167-05:00Comments on daddyBstrong: Michael Vick, Tony Dungy, and a change is gonna come, Part IIMac Daddy Tribute Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01483912561779369669noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-91091039899494438692009-05-11T10:17:00.000-05:002009-05-11T10:17:00.000-05:00Mad Mike says,
Those who beat up their wives sho...Mad Mike says, <br /><br /><I>Those who beat up their wives should NEVER have been allowed to play again. The man that beats his wife is just as bad as Vick.</I>Please forgive Mike. He was temporarily off his meds.Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-88481718203058651112009-05-09T16:22:00.000-05:002009-05-09T16:22:00.000-05:00You know, I do think he and his cousins and whoeve...You know, I do think he and his cousins and whoever else was involved did do something terrible as far as the disregard for the dogs and the promotion of this violent "sport" -- but I don't carry that out to his whole life and the good he may have done and hopefully will do in the future, or that he would treat all humans the same way...for there are many many many people who abuse, beat, traffic, and kill women and kids every day, here and across the world, and make lots of money doing it...for them I have no sympathy, just rage...<br /> <br />But for people like Michael Vick or people who grew up with dog fighting and cock fighting as a way of life--doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean there aren't some bad people involved--I think it's not just black and white. And the reality is that he will have been punished for his crime... <br /><br />Now if he came out of prison and did the same thing or worse, then of course I would feel differently, but I can't judge him today on something he may never do tomorrow.<br /><br />PattiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-61583530814488253012009-05-05T16:55:00.000-05:002009-05-05T16:55:00.000-05:00At the risk of pissing people off is it possible t...At the risk of pissing people off is it possible that, to some degree, the ability to forgive is absolutely tied to your feelings about the crime (or dogs)? If he'd financed abuse of children, would you forgive him? I don't think I could. <br /><br />I know dogs aren't kids, but it's degrees of heinous, isn't it? I admire the amazing capacity of people like Daddy to forgive, but I don't think the people who are struggling with forgiveness here are "haters." To assume the worst of people who feel strongly about the cruelty and brutality of the crime seems pretty harsh... and pretty devoid of the understanding we're suggesting be given to Vick.jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581709224856007999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-91406989285873018562009-05-05T12:34:00.000-05:002009-05-05T12:34:00.000-05:00Everyone: Thanks. This conversation will continue....Everyone: Thanks. This conversation will continue. Vicks will be in the news again when he gets out of prison and as he tries to find work in the NFL or some other league.Mac Daddy Tribute Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01483912561779369669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-15967020965906298122009-05-05T11:28:00.000-05:002009-05-05T11:28:00.000-05:00I feel very very sorry for those who can not forgi...I feel very very sorry for those who can not forgive. I can't imagine leading such a life.SagaciousHillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511441325695460501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-77872036083774429902009-05-04T20:22:00.000-05:002009-05-04T20:22:00.000-05:00Everyone should have a second chance and have lear...Everyone should have a second chance and have learned from the first mistake. I don't know about the NFL, but children should have people they can look up to.rainywalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445164335609548931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-64205275733465114012009-05-04T18:48:00.000-05:002009-05-04T18:48:00.000-05:00Those who beat up their wives should NEVER have be...Those who beat up their wives should NEVER have been allowed to play again. The man that beats his wife is just as bad as Vick.Kentucky Rainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16753739401363847764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-68928088682949174312009-05-04T17:39:00.000-05:002009-05-04T17:39:00.000-05:00Hey there,
Should he be allowed to return? Why ca...Hey there,<br /><br />Should he be allowed to return? Why can't he play?<br /><br /><br />What he did was deplorable. Yes, we all agree with that.<br /><br />But...if he fulfilled the terms of his punishment then I don't understand why he should be banned permanently from the League...<br /><br />He should be expecting any product endorsements contracts from Purina however...<br /><br />There are pro players who were arrested for beating up their own wives and didn't permanently lose their eligibility to participate in the League? Are the dogs more valued than wives?<br /><br />Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!<br />LisaLISA VAZQUEZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13583559303233985031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-23228224984670269422009-05-04T15:27:00.000-05:002009-05-04T15:27:00.000-05:00Carey I don't have much faith in the criminal just...Carey I don't have much faith in the criminal justice system, perhaps because I was part of it for many, many years. The recidivism rate runs right around 80% and that is in spite of all the forgiving, hugging, and rehabilitating. <br /><br />I'm not saying that Vick doesn't deserve another chance. I am just saying he doesn't deserve the same chance that he already threw out the window when he tortured innocent creatures (God's creatures if one is a believer). I don't want to see this guy back in the NFL. As to forgiveness, there are some crimes that I cannot forgive as I mentioned in my original post and the brutal torture and killing of innocent animals is one of them. <br /><br />I agree that Vick has paid a debt to society but that means he can no longer be prosecuted for that crime, not necessarily forgiven. I don't forgive crimes that are heinous, and this one of those crimes. If you want to smoke dope, buy hookers, gamble, and etc. so be it. You are hurting yourself. I can forgive those transgressions, but when you start taking lives, human or otherwise, then you don't deserve forgiveness.Kentucky Rainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16753739401363847764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7737268075572482842.post-10846434986781981082009-05-04T12:50:00.000-05:002009-05-04T12:50:00.000-05:00Looky here, I get to jump in fresh water. Let me p...Looky here, I get to jump in fresh water. Let me pee in the pool before others arrive. <br /><br />Here's what I don't understand. If forgiveness is the letting go of ones OWN ill feelings, then why do so many wish to hold onto that baggage. Look, forgiveness is NOT condoning anothers actions!<br /><br />If it's a desire for some to champion the negative "examples", that's on them. But hopefully, a wise person will look at the consequenes of Vicks misdeed and thus go a different way. A fool is going to do what they do ...and nothing going to change that.<br /><br />Lets be real about this. Anyone can look at the news or in some cases, step outside their doors and see a host of bad behavior. That being said, it would be woefully wrong to use Vick as a posters child for all the ills of the world. Besides, if Vick is not worthy of another chance - WHO is?! What crimes deserves second chances?<br /><br />Is hater stew boiling to the top or are "some" placing themselves on a pedestal that few can ever achieve?!CareyCareyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832737883766894892noreply@blogger.com